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My Ishapore 2A1 Navy Arms No.7 Jungle Carbine 7.62 : hoadie wrote:I didn't...

July 1, 2013, 9:02 pm
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Author: tasum
Subject: 6098
Posted: 02 July 2013 at 4:02am

Originally posted by hoadie hoadie wrote:

I didn't even know they made the carbine in 7.62.
Hoadie
 
Hi H
 
I understand that the Indians improved the metal quality and manufactured smles in 7.62mm as their issued battle rifle as a stop gap between the .303 enfields and the fn's which were taking a while to arrive and which were a costly upgrade.
 
This makes the Ishapore rifles very strong and able to handle the 7.62 round. I believe the ishys were the last bolt actio battle rifle to be issued to serving troops.
 
Navy Arms and Gibbs, probably along with some other companies, took these rifles and the .303's and made them into jungle copies. The Gibbs rifles were sometimes sporterised in stainless steel for the US market.
 
I believe that there were also conversions of the .303 rifles to 7.62. These converted rifles could be prone to issues as the receivers weren't designed to handle the 7.62 cartridge.
 
Mine was made the same year I was so I had to have it. LOL
 
It shoots well. I've had the flash hider re-aligned to allow the front sight to be central on the barrel (no windage adjustment on standard ishy smle's) and had the barrel re-crowned.
 
It has a very short sight radius for a rifle and I shoot at 100 yds at my club and so I've replaced the fornt sigt blade with a higher blade to bring the poi up and it's abut right.
 
If you have the chance to shoot one I'd recommend it. The ishys tend to have the aluminium butt plate and are marked RFI. They are a nice handling and lightish rifle with a 12 round magazine.
 
Mine has a scope mount fitted and so I've not tried loading it with stripper clips.
 
I hope this helps. Smile
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My Ishapore 2A1 Navy Arms No.7 Jungle Carbine 7.62 : Thanx Tasum..I was thinking there...

July 1, 2013, 10:46 pm
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Author: hoadie
Subject: 6098
Posted: 02 July 2013 at 5:46am

Thanx Tasum..I was thinking there was another critter out there I may have to aspire to acquire.
But-I have the real deal, so I'm relieved
Hoadie
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My Ishapore 2A1 Navy Arms No.7 Jungle Carbine 7.62 : Hoadie,You "need" this...

July 1, 2013, 10:54 pm
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My Ishapore 2A1 Navy Arms No.7 Jungle Carbine 7.62 : A suggestion, & a question...

July 1, 2013, 11:12 pm
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Author: Shamu
Subject: 6098
Posted: 02 July 2013 at 6:12am

A suggestion, & a question if I may.
Is that scope mount canted down at the front in real life, or is it just a photographic effect?
As for raising the cheekpiece there's a couple of things to coinsider.
 
First the bolt has to clear the cheekpiece so there is a practical limit to the height. I think whoever fitted yours put it way back towards the butt in an attempt to get round the bolt fouling issue as I've never seen one that far back before.
 
That might be part of what's making it uncomfortable to use because you need to have your head & neck at a twisted position to get a decent cheek weld.
 
Here's a more standard installation which as you can see is further forward, allowing a more comfortable positioning of the face & just low enough to allow bolt clearance.
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My Ishapore 2A1 Navy Arms No.7 Jungle Carbine 7.62 : Thanks for the comments Shamu....

July 2, 2013, 5:53 pm
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Author: tasum
Subject: 6098
Posted: 03 July 2013 at 12:53am

Thanks for the comments Shamu. I think it's the picture that makes the mount look canted. I'm going to take some pictures of my own and get them up.
 
I didn't notice that the riser is set so far back. Your picture and comments have helped. Neither did I consider taking the bolt throw into account when looking at making another riser. Thank you. Thumbs Up
 
I'm still toying with an adjustable option, but will give it some more thought. Looking at your rifle, the riser is quite low. Maybe I should be looking at adopting a higher position with the riser I have; I'm guessing all those who have shot these rifles with scopes before me must have got it right.
 
Thank you all for your comments.
 
Originally posted by paddyofurniture paddyofurniture wrote:

Hoadie,

You "need" this carbine.
 
classic and true LOL
 
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My Ishapore 2A1 Navy Arms No.7 Jungle Carbine 7.62 : hoadie wrote:I didn't even...

July 8, 2013, 3:38 am
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Author: A square 10
Subject: 6098
Posted: 08 July 2013 at 10:38am

Originally posted by hoadie hoadie wrote:

I didn't even know they made the carbine in 7.62.  
Hoadie


this is a commercial sporting of the indian 2A or 2A1 rifles , they were produced in 762 NATO 
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My Ishapore 2A1 Navy Arms No.7 Jungle Carbine 7.62 : Sir: I live in the US and having...

July 23, 2013, 2:13 am
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Author: bigochief
Subject: 6098
Posted: 23 July 2013 at 9:13am

Sir: I live in the US and having problems getting parts for the 2A1 Jungle Carbine. Do you have a source?
I need the forward stock piece and the rear barrel band and screw for the lower forend stock.
 
Please email me direct if you can provide any leads.
 
Thanks:
 
Bob
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My Ishapore 2A1 Navy Arms No.7 Jungle Carbine 7.62 : he!!o Bigochief,You rifle is...

July 23, 2013, 2:52 am
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Author: paddyofurniture
Subject: 6098
Posted: 23 July 2013 at 9:52am

he!!o Bigochief,

You rifle is made from a Indian Ishapore No1MKIII * .

You can obtain a military  cut down or sportized forearm for your wood needs from many places on line.

You can place an ad in this section:

http://www.enfield-rifles.com/forum_topics.asp?FID=17

Ed


 
Originally posted by bigochief bigochief wrote:

Sir: I live in the US and having problems getting parts for the 2A1 Jungle Carbine. Do you have a source?
I need the forward stock piece and the rear barrel band and screw for the lower forend stock.
 
Please email me direct if you can provide any leads.
 
Thanks:
 
Bob
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My Ishapore 2A1 Navy Arms No.7 Jungle Carbine 7.62 : I would own one, it's not...

September 14, 2013, 4:49 pm
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Author: 303carbine
Subject: 6098
Posted: 14 September 2013 at 11:49pm

I would own one, it's not an original, but I would still shoot and hunt it for sure.
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My Ishapore 2A1 Navy Arms No.7 Jungle Carbine 7.62 : Is the 2A1 butt stock different...

September 30, 2013, 11:39 pm
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Author: LE Owner
Subject: 6098
Posted: 01 October 2013 at 6:39am

Is the 2A1 butt stock different from the 2A butt stock? This one seems to have much less drop at heel.
Is that one of the Cupped aluminum butt plates, similar to that used on the K98K?
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My Ishapore 2A1 Navy Arms No.7 Jungle Carbine 7.62 : hiI also own a 2a1 jungle carbine...

December 8, 2013, 6:59 am
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Author: trucker1979
Subject: 6098
Posted: 08 December 2013 at 2:59pm

hi
I also own a 2a1 jungle carbine and would like to mount a scope on it
could you give some pointers to sites that sell mounts
did your mount require drilling as i was hoping to find a mount that could be fitted without any gunsmithing
i found a mount on a US site but they no not ship to UK
any assistance appreciated
regards
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My Ishapore 2A1 Navy Arms No.7 Jungle Carbine 7.62 : Hi AndyI believe that mine is...

December 8, 2013, 10:20 pm
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Author: tasum
Subject: 6098
Posted: 09 December 2013 at 6:20am

Hi Andy

I believe that mine is a b-square mount. You can get them on midwayuk, but they're not that cheap.


Mine came with the rifle, so I didn't have to shop around. You can check them out on the milsurps forums as there are some very knowledgeable people on here and there who amy be able to offer some more help.

Hope this helps.
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My Ishapore 2A1 Navy Arms No.7 Jungle Carbine 7.62 : "....You rifle is made from...

December 9, 2013, 3:52 am
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Author: A square 10
Subject: 6098
Posted: 09 December 2013 at 11:52am

"....You rifle is made from a Indian Ishapore No1 MKIII * . ..."

no paddy , its not , its a sported 762x51 2A/2A1` rifle , so those parts must be purchased/used , 
while there are versions made from the 303 no1 mk3* this is a different animal , we need to be careful not to give out erroneous info here , 

none of these cut downs are military , they are all sported versions of the military rifles , but both the 2A/2A1 and mk3* sporters by gibbs , sante fe , etc as well as the new made versions are finding favor in collections as they are quite well done and fun to shoot , 

as to the buttstock , it should be the same on a 2A and a 2A1 , only the backsight is different , different marking scale on the ladder , 
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My Ishapore 2A1 Navy Arms No.7 Jungle Carbine 7.62 : trucker1979 wrote:hiI also...

December 9, 2013, 4:27 am
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Author: flanker
Subject: 6098
Posted: 09 December 2013 at 12:27pm

Originally posted by trucker1979 trucker1979 wrote:

hi
I also own a 2a1 jungle carbine and would like to mount a scope on it
could you give some pointers to sites that sell mounts
did your mount require drilling as i was hoping to find a mount that could be fitted without any gunsmithing
i found a mount on a US site but they no not ship to UK
any assistance appreciated
regards


Have a look on the S+K website. They make "no drill" scope mounts for many old military rifles and they do ship to the UK. Prices are OK too: http://www.scopemounts.com/index.html?main.html#.
I've been very happy with the one on my No4.
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My Ishapore 2A1 Navy Arms No.7 Jungle Carbine 7.62 : My local gunshop has one of these...

December 9, 2013, 4:28 am
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Author: flanker
Subject: 6098
Posted: 09 December 2013 at 12:28pm


My local gunshop has one of these Ishapore carbines. Been there for a couple of years. Cheap too.
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My Ishapore 2A1 Navy Arms No.7 Jungle Carbine 7.62 : Cheers All it's marked RFI...

December 9, 2013, 8:55 pm
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Author: trucker1979
Subject: 6098
Posted: 10 December 2013 at 4:55am

Cheers All it's marked RFI 1967 obviously modded previously as has a rubber buttstock. I'm not so much interested in its origins more of the scope options. I will look into what you've all said and see what I can get hold of. Thanks again
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My Ishapore 2A1 Navy Arms No.7 Jungle Carbine 7.62 : I just purchased on of these and...

June 4, 2014, 6:44 am
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Author: Warrior4440
Subject: 6098
Posted: 04 June 2014 at 1:44pm

I just purchased on of these and plan on shooting 308 plastic practice ammo in it.  It's made in Germany and sells in the US for about $15.00/box of twenty.  Aguila ammo in 762.x51 is also an inexpensive FMJBT ammo.  Hope this helps.
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My Ishapore 2A1 Navy Arms No.7 Jungle Carbine 7.62 : check with richard on this site...

June 4, 2014, 10:25 am
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Author: A square 10
Subject: 6098
Posted: 04 June 2014 at 5:25pm

check with richard on this site for scoping options he custom makes a lot of modifications to these sporters , and his work is super 
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My Ishapore 2A1 Navy Arms No.7 Jungle Carbine 7.62 : I would own one, it's not...

September 14, 2013, 8:49 am
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Author: 303carbine
Subject: 6098
Posted: September 14 2013 at 3:49pm

I would own one, it's not an original, but I would still shoot and hunt it for sure.
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My Ishapore 2A1 Navy Arms No.7 Jungle Carbine 7.62 : Is the 2A1 butt stock different...

September 30, 2013, 3:39 pm
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Author: LE Owner
Subject: 6098
Posted: September 30 2013 at 10:39pm

Is the 2A1 butt stock different from the 2A butt stock? This one seems to have much less drop at heel.
Is that one of the Cupped aluminum butt plates, similar to that used on the K98K?
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